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Others argue the opposite: that the tension between them is all too real. They cite Wagner’s complete absence from Torro’s recent solo project, A Quiet Machine (2024), as evidence of a creative rift. But Torro himself has denied any falling out, tweeting (via a rarely used account) a single line: “Wagner is the other half of the circle. Without him, I only draw straight lines.”

The phrase "good piece" likely refers to a specific scene or performance they filmed together that is highly regarded within that community. @xboyrey Tyler Torro and Paul Wagner

Wagner Hot! — Tyler Torro Paul

The phrase "good piece" likely refers to a specific scene or performance they filmed together that is highly regarded within that community. @xboyrey Tyler Torro and Paul Wagner